U BAI GOLD?
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U BAI GOLD?
I'm blown away that this site claims to be a benefit to the WoW community yet you advertise WoW gold sites all over the damn place. Maybe you should take the right approach and not contribute to people who violate the EULA.
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Hybuir
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The bulk of the Warcraft community is in America, which is founded on convenience and of course a faster way of achieving goals. In WoW, there is a need for the tracking of realms, activity and of course leveling, which this site provides. The only problem is that if someone wants to see the information, they would not want to pay $1 or $2 to pull the information. Conversely, no one would want to pay $200+ for dedicated servers and work pro-bono for development, support, and time spent on this project with little or no reward.
Fortunately, on the Internet, there is a way of deferring your costs and specifically instead of selling emails, Rollie has chosen Advertisements, which only at MAX should be 2 additional pop ups a day. Like any advertisement, you have the option of clicking it or not, based on your needs, desires, and moral guidelines.
Technically, I don't think that WCR does not "contribute to people who violate the EULA" because they actually have to pay to place their advertisement on WCR (See http://www.warcraftrealms.com/advertising.php). This makes the website money, and keeps WCR running, and C+ up to date and virtually bug free
PS - Google text ads are based on the content of the page, so if you talk about puppies, you'll get puppy links
Fortunately, on the Internet, there is a way of deferring your costs and specifically instead of selling emails, Rollie has chosen Advertisements, which only at MAX should be 2 additional pop ups a day. Like any advertisement, you have the option of clicking it or not, based on your needs, desires, and moral guidelines.
Technically, I don't think that WCR does not "contribute to people who violate the EULA" because they actually have to pay to place their advertisement on WCR (See http://www.warcraftrealms.com/advertising.php). This makes the website money, and keeps WCR running, and C+ up to date and virtually bug free
PS - Google text ads are based on the content of the page, so if you talk about puppies, you'll get puppy links
Re: U BAI GOLD?
People are buying gold whether it's advertised on WarcraftRealms.com or not. If these ads help keep the site online, I have no problem with them.
I've wanted to write up a nice post for this thread, but I haven't taken the time. That and I can't find the original info that I wanted to post.
The general gist though, is that over 20% of players have purchased gold at one time or another. ( http://www.nickyee.com/daedalus/archives/001469.php )
Not only that, in another study (that I can no longer find), the majority of players today don't care about the virtual market anyway.
Now, I personally have never bought gold. I don't care about it one way or another. And even if I did feel strongly about it, I wouldn't thrust my beliefs on anyone else. Everyone is welcome to come to their own conclusions about this or any other thing for that matter.
In short, if you don't like the ads, don't click on them. If the ads offend you so much that you cannot enjoy the site's content, then you don't have to visit the site. The ads cover the costs and time of running this site, so they are serving their purpose.
The general gist though, is that over 20% of players have purchased gold at one time or another. ( http://www.nickyee.com/daedalus/archives/001469.php )
Not only that, in another study (that I can no longer find), the majority of players today don't care about the virtual market anyway.
Now, I personally have never bought gold. I don't care about it one way or another. And even if I did feel strongly about it, I wouldn't thrust my beliefs on anyone else. Everyone is welcome to come to their own conclusions about this or any other thing for that matter.
In short, if you don't like the ads, don't click on them. If the ads offend you so much that you cannot enjoy the site's content, then you don't have to visit the site. The ads cover the costs and time of running this site, so they are serving their purpose.
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Hmmm, first of all there are a ton of wow sites out there that run these ads and while I think it's very wrong to buy gold there is no way I would stop using most WoW related sites because of the ads. Most WoW players visit thottbot now and then and that's owned by IGE so unless you stay away from those sites too or are willing to pick up the cost for the dedicated servers and bandwidth then kindly just go away.
Rollie, I do hope you won't start quoting the various surveys done on virtual goods here, leave that debate to other boards. The simple fact is that virtual gold sellers like IGE have a very vested interest in making every gamer think that everyone else is buying gold, the more people thinking that the larger the available market. Consequently these companies fund surveys, ensure that their employees take part in the surveys if possible and of course also link to surveys on their sites. Needless to say if you get a considerable number of people taking the survey that found out about it through "cheat dot com" the survey will that a lot of people buy gold.
For me gold selling is part of the equation when I pick games I play, if there was another game out there even close to WoW but with less of a gold market I would be playing that game. I don't really care if player x is quitting the game and sells 2000 gold to player y really, what I do care about is the hacks used to highlight active ore deposits for the entire zone, the autofarming hacks, the nerfs to fishing due to exploits, the removal of chests due to exploits, the changes in game mechanics due to exploits, being griefed by 6 bots repeatedly for being to close to their designated farming area etc.
Rollie, I do hope you won't start quoting the various surveys done on virtual goods here, leave that debate to other boards. The simple fact is that virtual gold sellers like IGE have a very vested interest in making every gamer think that everyone else is buying gold, the more people thinking that the larger the available market. Consequently these companies fund surveys, ensure that their employees take part in the surveys if possible and of course also link to surveys on their sites. Needless to say if you get a considerable number of people taking the survey that found out about it through "cheat dot com" the survey will that a lot of people buy gold.
For me gold selling is part of the equation when I pick games I play, if there was another game out there even close to WoW but with less of a gold market I would be playing that game. I don't really care if player x is quitting the game and sells 2000 gold to player y really, what I do care about is the hacks used to highlight active ore deposits for the entire zone, the autofarming hacks, the nerfs to fishing due to exploits, the removal of chests due to exploits, the changes in game mechanics due to exploits, being griefed by 6 bots repeatedly for being to close to their designated farming area etc.
Yeah, I agree that surveys can be manipulated, but I wouldn't be surprised if that number is pretty spot on. This type of discussion has come up from time to time between many of my RL friends an myself and I was surprised to find out just how many had bought gold and were planning on doing it again in the future.
It really has come a long way towards general acceptance. And yes, I do agree with all the things you talk about, although I don't know how much of those things actually happen. I suppose they haven't happened to me so I don't really know but I'm not discounting that they have occurred.
My final thought is that the secondary market is here to stay. There isn't really anything Blizz can do to eliminate it, only possibly hamper it. Future games will also suffer the same problems unless they incorporate it into their own business model (which I expect to happen).
There are games out there now, and games on the horizon that include item/currency purchases in their business model, and as the secondary market becomes bigger and bigger, game company execs wil take notice and start working towards cashing in on this huge industry themselves.
It really has come a long way towards general acceptance. And yes, I do agree with all the things you talk about, although I don't know how much of those things actually happen. I suppose they haven't happened to me so I don't really know but I'm not discounting that they have occurred.
My final thought is that the secondary market is here to stay. There isn't really anything Blizz can do to eliminate it, only possibly hamper it. Future games will also suffer the same problems unless they incorporate it into their own business model (which I expect to happen).
There are games out there now, and games on the horizon that include item/currency purchases in their business model, and as the secondary market becomes bigger and bigger, game company execs wil take notice and start working towards cashing in on this huge industry themselves.
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There is no question that it will be included in the business model in the future, as a parent that's something I dread, I spent a lot of time playing MUD's when I should have studied at the university and if I had been able to sell items, currency etc. I doubt I would have ever discovered life outside the virtual world...
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neuronomad
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LOL. This site is a great site and if I just have to ignore the gold ads, I have NO problem at all doing so. Heck even Google Gmail picks me WoW Gold Mining sites when I get an email with WoW topics in it.
Just because a site has an ad for something doesn't mean that they agree with the ad, just that they needed the money.
Just because a site has an ad for something doesn't mean that they agree with the ad, just that they needed the money.
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