Blood Elf Paladins and Draenei Shaman

Post by **Rollie** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:57 am

So looks like Horde and Alliance are to be further 'balanced' in respect to classes as well. We'll now have Alliance Shaman and Horde Pallies:

https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/index.xml

As we draw closer to the release of World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade, more of the secrets shrouding the draenei and blood elves are being revealed. In the upcoming expansion, you will finally be able to play classes that were previously unavailable to your faction: the blood elves have harnessed the power of the Light for their own needs, supporting the Horde with renegade blood elf paladins. Meanwhile, the draenei have been granted the wisdom and strength of the elements, and some among the newest members of the Alliance now follow the path of the shaman.

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What do you think of this latest announcement from Blizz? Will having the ability to have both Shaman AND Paladins further trivialize some content?

madslane · Post by **madslane** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:34 pm

lmao.

That's funny. One reason I enjoy playing Horde Faction is playing as a shamn, and now what would be the point?

Skyfire · Post by **Skyfire** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:36 pm

I dislike this change.

I really, really, do.

Yes, Paladins are ezmoad PvE. However, no, that doesn't mean you should give each to the other side.

Alanthus · Post by **Alanthus** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:23 pm

*shrug*

they don't have any designers left to do new good stuff so they rehash old stuff...

at least I get to level a shammy on alliance before I cancel

Sianni · Post by **Sianni** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:53 pm

Hum. Not sure I like this, but who knows... maybe I'll actually get a paladin past level 20. Been waiting for Blood Elves to fully experience the Horde side of the game.

Post by **Rollie** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:24 pm

I really wonder if it is more of a balancing thing more than anything else. So there can be no cries of the 'Paladin ezmode', etc.

I do think it detracts overall from the game. Each side having unique traits is one thing that makes things interesting. The more they homogenize everything, the less interesting each bit becomes.

Skyfire · Post by **Skyfire** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:38 pm

They could buff Shaman PvE.

Like, extend totem range by 20ish yards.

Alanthus · Post by **Alanthus** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:22 am

You have just as many cries about shammies being overpowered in PvP as pallys in PvE so it's an easy way to "fix" the game. It also shows beyond any shadow of a doubt that the light that once burned as a beacon of inspiration for the design team has burned out.

madslane · Post by **madslane** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:10 am

I dunno, I have a 19 shaman and I straight beat the crap out of Pallys so maybe it's different at higher levels.

But as a 57 warrior I took on two 60's. One decked in PvP gear and ther other had part of Earthfury (Tier 1 armor for Shaman). I destroyed the PvP gear one and got the other too about 50% before he killed me. It was pretty intresting.

It was right outside entrance of WC and I was flagged they ran up both went flagged. I charged one, hit Battle Shout, Demolizing shout, both are meleeing me, hit retliation and say about 3 1000+ hits. The Tier 1 backed up, started to cast a heal on the PvP one. At this point I had him at 15%, hit execute and finished him off. Went berserker intercepted the other one, back to battle and just kept hitting him for all I could. But he got me.

Skyfire · Post by **Skyfire** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:05 am

Don't forget Alanthus, this isn't the original Dev team.

They're all (or most of them) ex-EQ Devs. Which is why this game is starting to lose it's touch, I think.

Alanthus · Post by **Alanthus** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:02 pm

Skyfire, that's my point really, it would have been interesting to see what the original dev team could come up with instead of just hanging around because no other significant MMO has been released in a while :/

king_attax · Post by **king_attax** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:36 pm

not really sure if the changes are cool or not..
but im really really hoping it will be something good..
shaman absolutely rocks..i played paladin too but i suck at it..=(
anyways i got a pre-order of the burning crusade now at gamersloot.net and im just excited about it..i cant wait till October they mentioned it is expected this October..
while waiting i will let my tauen warrior owns all alliances..=p

xpolockx · Post by **xpolockx** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 12:18 pm

Yeah, I think it's just the really lazy way of balancing the factions in pve. Really, as it stands, there's no pvp difference - because although pvp may innately lean towards the horde (or so the alliance complains), on most servers the alliance outgear the horde enough to tip the scales in the alliance's favor. The endgame pve progression of the horde is just not up to the alliance over most servers; instead of buffing shaman raid capability like the shaman have been asking for a really long time now, they're just taking the easy way out. Kind of makes me sad, since despite their efforts it really does step all over Warcraft lore. I'm not going to go all berserk and cancel my account though, as I'd like to see how it works out.

Vek · Post by **Vek** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:40 pm

It makes me obsolete.

oiseaux · Post by **oiseaux** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 2:23 pm

I think that both sides are going to be rather shocked at how good their unique classes were in PVP and PVE. Mostly, I think horde are going to cry about shamans because anytime you honestly ask horde why they win mostly in pvp they say shamans.

I really don't think horde know how difficult it is to win against a good shaman. AND I don't think alliance knows how difficult it is to win against a good paladin. This really makes me excited. I guess I don't know why everyone is so upset about the change.(I am not into the lore aspect of the game, sorry. It is just not my thing at all) Really, the game had to go in this direction for things to work out in my opinion.

To those thinking that the new devs are to blame, I saw a blue post that said this was planned from release of the game in 2004. So this is not something new and of course I cannot find it now. It was probably deleted haha.

Horde will still have the best racials for PVP though, hands down. The blood elf racial is overpowered and I bet it gets nerfed within a few months of the release, but this will give alliance a chance to win WSG haha Earthbind totems and grounding totems to eat up mages pyroblasts and warlocks deathcoils, and fears ftw!! I can't wait! Horde caster classes are going to be crying...

big_dady_kane · Post by **big_dady_kane** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:15 pm

NO point in having a alliance pally or horde sham anymore.. i still stick with the hope that horde dont know how to play there paladins and i still own them ezmode.. im still currently sulking about how horde will now have the ability to melt even the most fire resistant face

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big_dady_kane · Post by **big_dady_kane** » Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:19 pm

the only reason i have to hate shamans is NOT the dmg they do but the HEALING they DO every fight i have with a shaman involves him healing.. a few days ago i was fighting one and he did that lesser heal thing AT LEAST 10 TIMES!! so i got owned but really im sure all horde hate me >_< previous pvp encounters run when they see me in contesteds