Blizzard announces 2nd connected realm pairing.

Balgair · Post by **Balgair** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:29 am

FuxieDK wrote:
bringoutyourdead wrote:I really hope Blizzard doesn't combine more then 5 realms into 1... but we will have to wait and see what Blizz does.
Well... From a coding PoV I hope you are right..
From the game's PoV, I hope you are dead wrong.. The best thing that could happen to the game, is ONE realm for EU and ONE realm for US..

This would really put perspective into the word "World" in WoW..

Not quite sure, how they would solve the lag problems though.. Timeless Isle on Draenor the first week was insane.. You could actually risk not getting a single hit on Dreadship, before it was dead, due to lag, even if you was present when it spawned..

Please, no no no no lol. Lag and competition for mobs is more than bad enough already, thanks - I actually want them to use their virtual realm tech to split big realms like Draenor in the busiest zones; there's actually no need for all of us online in the same zone at the same time to be able to see everyone else at once; phase half of us into another realm (temporarily, ofc - grouping up would shift phase so you're together) and give us some chance at not lagging to death and maybe even being able to tag something once in a while, I say!

The world would have to be one heck of a lot larger to manage that many people at once; Draenor is a fantastic example of what it's like when overpopulated, and there's never much over 5k online at one time (guesswork there, based off 4-4.2k Horde census results and assuming 600-1k on Alliance, however it takes an hour to run a census so may pick up more characters than are actually online). Change that to about 50k for all Europe (very conservative estimate, I'd expect far more; new expansion times and you're talking 500k minimum...) and omg it'll be hell on earth.

Already when a new expansion launches I have to play overnight to get out of the first zone and into places where it's possible to tag any mobs at all. Every new patch content is impossible to tag stuff and shared tag mobs last about 3 seconds, plus enormous lag (not sure if you were on Draenor when 5.2 launched but Oondasta spawns crashed the server several times a week for the first month...). There's simply no way the hardware could ever cope with that, and the sheer volume of players would wreck the game for everyone as it's just no fun at all not being able to actually tag anything.

If I hadn't been on Draenor so long I'd have moved by now as the overpopulation really spoils things, unfortunately staying put is the only chance I have to reconnect with old friends when they return to the game. Plus in any case, after eight years here, Draenor is home. Not such a fun home as it once was, but it just feels wrong being anywhere else so I have to put up with it.

Balgair · Post by **Balgair** » Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:19 pm

Next batch now announced, we've got a 4-in-1 now!

Dethecus and Detheroc
Auchindoun and Laughing Skull
Hakkar and Aegwynn
Rivendar and Firetree
Dunemaul and Bloodscalp/ Maiev/Boulderfist

Post by **bringoutyourdead** » Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:38 pm

I think I might have a release for CensusPlus tomorrow...maybe..I still want to test certain areas more.

Currently it handles in game up to 5 connected realms...
As stated before, after starting a census /take and learning the realm membership, the in game census window can display:
All race/class/level selected displays for the superset realm and each member realm (and even display correct info... something I had not checked completely since taking over development from Rollie)

Upon selecting a member realm the top XP guilds valid to that realm are displayed and the race/class/level selectors can be used to limit the view of the data.

If you move to another member realm after selecting a realm's guild, the guild display will blank.. deselecting back to superset and then again to the new member realm displays the new selected realm's guilds.

Remember when a guild is selected, its membership can be drawn from all connected realms, and so far from my testing I have that code correct.

As much as I tried not having to toss out most of Rollie's display code... it did end up being a complete rewrite of those sections of the code to handle the situations where data was member realm specific or did a back door search of the superset.

As of this moment the character sub-window is not working... it also needs a big rewrite of the code so that character "Thatguy" of realm a isn't confused with "Thatguy" of realm b. And that seen guild membership is correctly pulled from all member realms.

I'm working on that... but I can't promise it will be ready for tomorrow.

FuxieDK · Post by **FuxieDK** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:36 am

bringoutyourdead wrote:Currently it handles in game up to 5 connected realms...

You might want to start thinking of what happens if we reach more than 5... We're already up to 4, and they haven't even begun with EU servers yet..

FuxieDK · Post by **FuxieDK** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:32 am

WOOT... EU realms gets connected now too

Code: Select all

Hakkar and Emeriss
Taerar and Echsenkessel
Burning Steppes and Kor’gall
Theradras and Dethecus

Source: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/2766 ... ed-realms/

Balgair · Post by **Balgair** » Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:58 am

/cheer, wondered when we'd finally get some! No surprise that Hakkar is one of the first lol, surprised Crushridge isn't included too. They'll get added into a batch soon though.

Two pairs each for English and German realms, about what I expected tbh, Spanish and French are almost all Medium rather than Low, and Italian only has two realms of different types so can't merge regardless.

1974ER · Post by **1974ER** » Thu Oct 24, 2013 5:40 am

New data on forums!

Update 24/10 - We will be performing maintenance on the realms listed below on Friday, October 25 from 3:00 AM CEST until approximately 8:00 AM CEST. Once these realms are available again, these connections will be complete.

Realm Connections:

Hakkar and Emeriss
Taerar and Echsenkessel
Burning Steppes and Kor’gall
Theradras and Dethecus

_______________________________

As a part of our ongoing Connected Realms implementation, we will be connecting additional realms as listed below. We don’t have a specific date yet on when these connections will occur, but we’ll provide another update once we do.

Next Realm Connections:

Mug’thol and Dethecus/Theradras
Temple Noir and Naxxramas
Crushridge and Emeriss/Hakkar
Sporeggar and Scarshield Legion

Balgair · Post by **Balgair** » Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:26 am

Just paid the Hakkar/Emeriss pairing a visit and can't see any obvious glitches with EU realms, phew!

A small question - /census serverprune is meant to clear all realms except your current one. Does that mean it deletes connected realm data, or is it smart enough to leave it in place?

Could see that being an annoyance to people who play on connected realms if it bins their data lol, doesn't really affect me but just curious!

Post by **bringoutyourdead** » Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:21 pm

That is a good question Balgair.

Since I haven't reworked that area... the only realm that is touched is the login realm.

But that probably needs to be changed... to impact the superset realm.. if you are on a connected realm your 'current realm' is the connected realm not just the member realm.

After all it seems to me that Blizzard is on the road to downplaying the old realms into just being neighborhoods within the new connected realm.

Balgair · Post by **Balgair** » Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:37 pm

Hehe I was pretty sure it'd be likely to be only the login realm treated as "home" rather than the conglomeration of connected realms

Worth playing with when you've got some free time on your hands I guess though - I'm sure there's more important matters to work on first though, it's a fairly minor deal in the overall scheme of things

Post by **bringoutyourdead** » Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:24 pm

I spent some time looking at pruning today... (while I wait and give time for users to comment on the character list items)

I gave up when my eyes started loosing focus... unfortunately this is another area that will require rewrite to handle both single realm and multiple realm processing.

So Yes for now... If you do Prune.. you will probably want to log in on all the realms in the connected set to prune the whole connected realm evenly. (which you would want to do to get balanced results across all the members.)

Doing Serverprune... isn't going to give you the results you want if you use it on a connected realm.

Post by **bringoutyourdead** » Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:44 pm

And they just announced the first 5 realm connected realm set.
Date to be determined (probably mid to late next week)

Post by **bringoutyourdead** » Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:51 pm

we need an emote for sticking out your tongue at Blizzard's developers!

I hoped we didn't need to do this but... I'm ready for them
Until they go past 15 member realms...

Balgair · Post by **Balgair** » Sat Oct 26, 2013 2:22 pm

Haha looks good! Cluttered but as well fitted in as could be hoped for given the amount of stuff there is to show now

Post by **bringoutyourdead** » Sat Oct 26, 2013 5:04 pm

Any more changes to handle growth will require an ARTWORK layer change... and you know what that means... (since you did the last art work changes for me)

FuxieDK · Post by **FuxieDK** » Sat Oct 26, 2013 5:25 pm

1974ER wrote:New data on forums!

Update 24/10 - We will be performing maintenance on the realms listed below on Friday, October 25 from 3:00 AM CEST until approximately 8:00 AM CEST. Once these realms are available again, these connections will be complete.

Realm Connections:

Hakkar and Emeriss
Taerar and Echsenkessel
Burning Steppes and Kor’gall
Theradras and Dethecus

Why can't I see any connections on Kor'gall??

[01:19:25] Census+ Sending /who 11-20
[01:19:42] Census+ Who query: 1-10, found 2
[01:19:42] Census+ Sending /who 1-90 n-Censushorde
[01:19:50] Census+ Who query: 1-90 n-Censushorde, found 1
[01:19:50] Census+ Processing 1 characters.
[01:19:50] Census+ Finished Taking data. Found 73 new characters and saw 73. Took 2 Min 21 Sec.
[01:19:50] CensusPlus found the following Connected Realms
[01:19:50] EU-Kor'gall
[01:19:50] Be sure to upload your CensusPlus data to www.WarcraftRealms.com!

I can click the 4 spots after "Connected" in the UI, but they doesn't say anything..

Also, since this is sunday very early (or saturday very late, if you will), we have most definately passed the Friday maintainance, where they should be connected..

I have checked the LUA, and "Burning Steppes" isn't in the file, not even a single sime.

Balgair · Post by **Balgair** » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:07 pm

Those two weren't connected in the end, it didn't go through.

Additional time is going to be required to complete the connection below:

Burning Steppes and Kor’gall

We don’t have a specific date yet on when this connection will occur, but we’ll provide another update once we do.

@BOYD - argh, that'll be fun

"Artwork" was just copy+pasting the lines and corners around till they fitted lol, I'm not really a good artist, especially when it comes to addons

Padanfain · Post by **Padanfain** » Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:31 pm

Realm connection list with some new from http://wowpedia.org/Connected_Realms .

US

PvE servers

Nesingwary and Vek'nilash (planned 10/28/2013)
Winterhoof and Kilrogg (planned)

PvP servers

Boulderfist, Bloodscalp, Maiev and Dunemaul (9/25/2013, 10/21/2013 and 10/24/2013)
Black Dragonflight and Skullcrusher (10/15/2013)
Balnazzar and Warsong (10/21/2013)
Gurubashi, Aegwynn and Hakkar (10/21/2013 and 10/24/2013)
Dalvengyr and Dark Iron (10/21/2013)
Garithos and Chromaggus (10/21/2013)
Onyxia and Burning Blade (10/21/2013)
Dethecus and Detheroc (10/24/2013)
Auchindoun and Laughing Skull (10/24/2013)
Rivendare and Firetree (10/24/2013)
Blackwing Lair and Detheroc/Dethecus (planned 10/28/2013)
Anub'arak and Chromaggus/Garithos (planned 10/28/2013)
Drak'tharon and Firetree/Rivendare (planned 10/28/2013)
Blood Furnace and Mannoroth (planned 10/28/2013)
Haomarush and Dethecus/Detheroc/Blackwing Lair (planned)
Stonemaul and Bloodscalp/Boulderfist/Dunemaul/Maiev (planned)
Tortheldrin and Frostmane (planned)
[Server:Gul'dan US|Gul'dan]] and Black Dragonflight/Skullcrusher [(planned)
Lightning's Blade and Burning Blade/Onyxia (planned)

EU

PvE servers

No realm groupings have yet been announced for PvE or RP servers.

PvP servers

Hakkar and Emeriss (2013-10-25)
Taerar and Echsenkessel (2013-10-25)
Theradras and Dethecus (2013-10-25)
Burning Steppes and Kor'gall (planned)
Mug'thol and Dethecus/Theradras (planned)
Temple Noir and Naxxramas (planned)
Crushridge and Emeriss/Hakkar (planned)
Sporeggar and Scarshield Legion (planned)

1974ER · Post by **1974ER** » Sun Oct 27, 2013 12:35 am

Adjusting some analog clocks back to winter time while I think...

I suspect that Blizzard may have run into some problem(s) with the ' in Kor'gall. If so, more problems inbound for US tomorrow.

Balgair · Post by **Balgair** » Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:42 am

1974ER wrote:Adjusting some analog clocks back to winter time while I think...

I suspect that Blizzard may have run into some problem(s) with the ' in Kor'gall. If so, more problems inbound for US tomorrow.

Didn't happen on the day but apparently since maintenance Nesingwary and Vek'nilash have massive issues with characters and guilds going missing or characters can't be logged into. Maybe coincidence that that's the only pairing this has happened to and nothing to do with the name but still, ouch!